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Awakening Your Inner Billionaire with Debbie Dobbins

Awakening Your Inner Billionaire with Debbie Dobbins | The Science of Self

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In this episode of The Science of Self, our host interviews Debbie Dobbins, author of 'Your Inner Billionaire.' Debbie, who calls herself the barefoot thought leader, shares her journey of awakening her inner billionaire—an inner mindset of freedom and abundance—despite facing serious life challenges, including a cancer diagnosis and financial hardship. This conversation delves into the importance of gratitude, brainwave frequencies, the power of storytelling, and practices such as meditation and future journaling. Debbie also explores how spirituality and consciousness contribute to a fulfilling life. Tune in to learn how to reveal your true self and cultivate abundance in all areas of your life.


00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

00:12 Debbie's Journey to Writing 'Your Inner Billionaire'

00:30 The Concept of the Inner Billionaire

01:22 Debbie's Personal Struggles and Lessons Learned

02:36 The Power of Gratitude

06:09 Understanding Brainwave Frequencies and Hypnotherapy

09:23 Spirituality vs. Religion

11:44 Manifestation and Abundance

13:44 Practical Tips for Building Abundance

15:46 Final Thoughts and Resources

Transcript
Russell Newton:

Hello listeners.

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Welcome back to The Science of Self.

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Thanks for joining us today.

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I'm happy to introduce to you

our guest, Debbie Dobbins,

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author of Your Inner Billionaire.

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Debbie Dobbins: I'm calling

myself the barefoot thought leader

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because I love being barefoot.

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Like I've spent a lot of time in Dale,

Carmen, Mexico, on the Caribbean.

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Which is where I wrote my

book, your Inner Billionaire.

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And I've had people say to me

quite often that actually I don't

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really wanna be a billionaire.

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And I realize that I don't wanna

be a billionaire either in my bank

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account, but I wanna be a billionaire

inside so that I enjoy life from the

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same perspective that billionaires

do, which is the sense of freedom.

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So my primary, clients are women,

and I help women awaken their inner

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billionaire because it isn't a journey

of finding and discovering yourself.

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It's about revealing yourself.

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So my mission in life, is to have everyone

reveal their inner billionaire, it's

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just about uncovering who you truly are.

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Russell Newton: A real billionaire,

if we're talking in terms of dollars,

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obviously has none of those worries that

the rest of us have about day-to-day

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paying bills and keeping food on

the table or paying for the house

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keeping the roof fixed and so forth.

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the inner billionaire.

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If the roof is leaking, what do they do?

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Debbie Dobbins: Well, first of all,

I approached this from a holistic,

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place because when I wrote the

book, I was telling my story.

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I wrote this as a love letter to myself,

that I've been an abundance teacher for

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probably 30 years, and I did approach

it of how to make money and how to have

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a mindset, which is really fantastic.

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We need all of that.

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And yet, I was diagnosed with cancer

about six years ago, and what I

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found was I didn't have medical

insurance, even though that seems to

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be a popular thing to get these days.

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I didn't have it and I ended up being.

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Flat broke, so it was flat

on my back and flat broke.

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And I often say in this book, it's

about those moments when you have these

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critical problems show up in your life.

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Literally, I was on food stamps,

I know what that feeling is like.

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It's not as if I really understand

being an inner billionaire from the

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perspective that I've had all these

opportunities in my life, I actually

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have been where that person would be

without the ability to pay for the roof.

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And the fact is, is that you can focus

on the poverty of not being able to fix

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the roof, because the more you focus

on that, the more the roof won't be

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fixed, or you can begin to adopt some

of the principles I share in the book.

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Which begins with gratitude, which I

have two chapters on gratitude, because

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gratitude is the gateway to everything.

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I can't say that enough.

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So even if the roof is falling down and

you don't have the money, the first thing

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you have to do, and this is probably

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gonna, everybody's gonna go,

oh, that's impossible, is

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You have to be grateful.

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This is the situation that I'm in.

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What do I do next?

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here's the thing is that

we can always build a story

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however we wanna build a story.

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That's the thing about our brains, and

that's why I do love neuroplasticity

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so much, is because you can shift

and morph that you can create new

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grooves in your brain anytime you want.

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And yet you still have to start with

this body by feeling that emotionally

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because it's the frequency of our

emotions in our body that actually

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project what we're seeing on the outside.

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So just to use the roof example.

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If I'm sitting in the middle of my

living room and I have a leaky roof,

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and I see that I have no money,

and if I start to focus on all the

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negative, I'm gonna see more of that.

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So it really is so important for us

as a human species to stop blaming

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and pointing fingers and complaining,

and start really operating at a very

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high vibration, which is gratitude and

giving, and loving and communication and

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connection, and all these good, happy

qualities, but they truly do build a life

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around you that is absolutely sensational.

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Russell Newton: So to

cultivate the gratitude, do you

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recommend a gratitude journal?

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As you might read a lot of places,

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Debbie Dobbins: any type of

gratitude is good more you can

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resonate in your body with it.

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So everyone is.

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Well, a lot of people, I

wouldn't say everybody.

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I have a family member that

doesn't understand how to,

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tap into their feelings.

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But we do have these emotions and the

emotions are the things that cause

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the chemical reactions in our body

that then charge up the frequency.

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I call our brains our little now because

the AI is connected to the nervous system.

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So it really is about

slowing down, number one.

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So whether you're gonna do a

journal, you're gonna do it through

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meditation or you're gonna do it

just by being out in the world.

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I'll drive in my car and I

can bring myself to tears.

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Literally because I am so grateful.

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I've always appreciated my body

and I think I really began to

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appreciate it even more when

you're staring death in the face.

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You just have a different appreciation.

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And so just now moving through science,

and I've really loved understanding

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neuroscience and just put it in context

with this physical body that has all of

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these stored emotions and chemicals, and

then it's connected with a vagus nerve and

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it's just a big, beautiful, had a friend

that went to, Scientology years ago, and

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he calls, and I find myself saying this

every once in a while, this meat stick

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that we walk around in, I mean, it's

just a, it's an amazing vessel, right?

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It's got all these different looks

to it, but in the reality, we're a

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meat stick with an AI on top of it,

and we're just navigating the world.

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Everything is not matter, it's energy.

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So this has a frequency, this

piece of paper has a frequency.

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This book has a frequency.

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We have a frequency, and our frequency

is predicated on a couple of those

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factors that you just shared.

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And it is the brainwave

frequencies, the theta, the delta.

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And so I became a hypnotherapist.

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Oh gosh, I was telling this to

somebody else the other day.

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can't believe it's over 30 years

ago, like:

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And that's when I really began to

learn about the brain frequency.

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So like everything is now, you

can have an E, K, G, and they

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can measure those frequencies.

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And so the slower the frequency in

your brain, we'll just use that one for

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the first part of this conversation.

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Beta is where we're in beta,

most of our, waking life, beta

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is like very, it's like staccato.

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the higher your stress

level is, the more beta is.

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we wanna do is get into the

alpha, which is a slower brainwave

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pattern, if you've ever seen it.

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It's, you know, it's just

like looking at a sound graph.

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Once you get down to alpha and

then beta and theta, those are the

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receptivity brainwave patterns.

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So that's why hypnosis or meditation

allows you to begin to implant things

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that bypass your unconscious gateway,

because that's really what keeps us stuck.

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We're in beta, we're just repetitive.

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We're doing what the AI tells

us and we keep going forward.

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But the fact is, is that between

age one and seven, our brains

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are in that alpha pattern.

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Which is the receptive pattern.

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This is when we're taking all the,

imagine, I always call this our ai.

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So if we program AI and we give

it the right information, it's

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always gonna be able to share

back what questions we're asking.

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That's why I love AI so much and it's

just moving us in a different direction.

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But the fact is when we're one to eight,

we're downloading information we're

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making our judgements then and building

our stories about what life looks like.

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Then once you hit past day eight-ish,

you close the window, right?

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Then we go into that beta.

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So now what we do is we take all

the information and we begin to

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project, these are my beliefs.

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This is how the world operates.

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Now I'm going to create it

because we are the great creators.

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Easiest way to describe a binaural

beat is a frequency going in one ear.

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You have two headphones with it.

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One ear say it's at four, beats per

second, and this one's at three.

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What happens is your brain has to

reconcile it, and while it's doing that,

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it takes you, and the first time I ever

heard about binaural beats, it said

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it takes you immediately to that same

state of mind that Tibetan monks get in.

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And I went, well, I'm all on that program.

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Please sign me up.

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And what I discovered is that

it works and it is absolutely

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phenomenal how deeply you can get

into meditation if you use bin beats.

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But there's so much of it on the YouTube

and the internet now that sometimes

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I question whether or not they're

really truly, I've created my own.

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But it is so fascinating how we can

just allow the brain to more or less

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just center and link into what is

that true, receptive energy, which

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is Alpha Theta and Delta waves.

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I'll just say religion is dogmatic.

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spirituality is consciousness

the way I perceive spirituality.

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we're all conscious, my version of

spirituality is that we're all one.

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the end of the story.

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So if we're all one, then we're

all, you know, seeing each other as

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godliness, walking around the planet.

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And religion is very much, and I have some

amazing friends and I've studied religion,

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that there are some beautiful essences of,

most religions, probably all I should say.

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And they all have this common

golden thread that run through

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them, which is spirituality.

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It's the dogma that sandwiches

them together that sometimes

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can be off putting to people.

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But I know people in every religion

That are as spiritual as all get out.

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Because when you begin to

really dive into the essence of

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spirituality, it is consciousness.

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And that's what I believe

we're all headed for.

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Ultimately, wherever consciousness is,

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I believe that there needs

to be an owner's manual for

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how we as humans operate.

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That's given to us in the delivery room.

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Like we don't have any idea, we're

just trying to figure it out.

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And so now there's a lot of

information, but those stories,

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whether they're cognitive, the way

you describe them, or I call 'em a

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money story, they're just stories.

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That's all they are.

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And I use this example, there was a

gentleman on a documentary I was watching

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not too long ago, and it was about

people having traumatic experiences.

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Literally a lady was completely

burned from head to toe.

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And you know, we can all come

through these horrific experiences.

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But this one gentleman was hit by

a semi-truck, I think he might've

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been on a bike he was devastated.

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he almost did die.

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And he resented the person

that hit him for years.

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we get to the point in the story

where he's talking to a therapist

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and he says, got hit by a truck.

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and I almost died.

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And the therapist said,

you got hit by a truck.

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And he says, and I almost died.

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And he said, but you're

sitting right here.

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to say that cancer saved my life

sounds really incongruent on so

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many levels yet that really is

truly, I've never been happier.

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I've never been healthier, I've never

been wealthier than since that time.

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And it truly began with the

incubation of just being me.

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Like there wasn't any, I lived by myself.

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California when this was going on,

and I also was able to see how amazing

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manifestation, if that's the word

that we wanna use, so that people can

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understand it, is available to all of us.

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I had the best doctors,

I had the best surgeons.

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I had the best medical treatment

that just came out of nowhere.

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Literally, when I was diagnosed, I went.

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Okay, I don't have insurance.

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What am I gonna do?

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they just started coming.

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People were showing up to give me food.

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People were showing up to take

care of my, cat when I had to go

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into the hospital for surgeries.

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I had the most amazing nurses.

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And so it was just this blend of really

being, once again, going back to the

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whole gratitude thing, that I could be

so grateful for a time in my life that

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so many people would've said, wow, I

don't want to be in this experience.

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And yet I just blessed

it every step of the way.

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I've got a time vendor process that

helps you create more time for yourself.

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Because what we do is we live in this

world of stress and overwhelm and all

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of that is keeping us from our good.

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So now with all this AI help, we should

be having these lives that are much

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more expansive and I still, people still

see people working harder and longer.

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So to find out more about anything,

you can put the debbie dobbins.com,

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that's my website, and it'll

lead you to some of the programs.

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But I would say the best thing

you can do right now is opt in

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for the divine wealth activator.

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Just type in divine wealth activator.com.

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It'll and it's a great jumpstart

to begin to start building that

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consciousness for wealth building.

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Yeah, so one of the things I start

out in the course with the Ignite, I

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call it Ignite your Inner Billionaire.

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So we take the book and do it in

a course, and anybody can do this

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just by this simple instruction.

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I call it future journaling, but

there's not a journal involved.

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Imagine that you're talking

to a friend about your future.

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So I woke up today and you can't

believe the deal that I got.

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Oh my gosh, everybody is so

excited to be working with me.

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So future journaling is just about

being in the present moment as if it's

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happening right now, but letting that

energetic, feeling come up into your body.

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You can do it anywhere, anytime, and

even if people are listening to you,

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they don't know who you're talking to.

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So that's one little wonderful

trick and tip that I can share.

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Gratitude is the gateway.

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100%.

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We talked about that enough, but

gratitude just begin right now.

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Practicing gratitude and then giving.

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Giving is really an important

ingredient to building.

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Abundance, whatever you're giving.

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So when I talk about abundance,

it's a holistic approach.

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So it's abundance of relationships, it's

abundance of wealth, it's abundance of

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health, it's abundance of spirituality.

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So we do a wheel and we talk

about all areas of your life.

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If you want more of whatever you

say you want more of, give it away.

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So let's say you want more

love, give more love away.

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You want more money.

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And I'm not talking about it from

the perspective of obligation.

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'cause I have a lot of times people

share with me, oh, I give 20% and

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they're doing it out of obligation

because they've learned it.

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That's part of their money story.

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I like to give a new technique

of giving from the perspective

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of your right hand does not know

what your left hand is doing.

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Because when you give, you have to give

freely and without anybody knowing it.

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Stephen Covey, says, seek first to

understand, then to be understood.

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I think in the world that we live in

today, if we could just practice that

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then that would make a better world.

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And then one of the other things

that I often share with people And

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ask myself when I'm in a challenging

situation or somebody's pushing

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my buttons, is what would love do?

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And if you ask yourself when

you're in the middle of customer

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service, people are always the ones

that get me a little triggered.

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I have to stop and go, what would love do?

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Love wouldn't yell at them.

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So I think those two things seek first

to understand and then to be understood.

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And then what would love

do in this circumstance?

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And if you haven't read Stephen Covey's

book, then go read the story where

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he talks about that with the it makes

me cry every time I think about it.

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The guy on the train with the kids, right?

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We never know.

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We never know what someone else is going

through and we judge it as if we do.

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And so if we seek to understand,

if we just begin to practice that

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one thing, life will become better.

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And my book is available on Amazon if you

want to go check it out there as well.

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